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Iain Duncan Smith To Trial Benefit Sanction Warning

Scheme will give claimants 14 days to explain infringements before benefits are docked after MPs criticise system as overly punitive.

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  1. In a just and democratic world this man would be hunted down and ‘sanctioned’ for his dereliction of the commitment to public health.

  2. This is a step in the correct direction. I hope this is followed up with actions and is not just empty spin. This proves we must keep fighting – as we are making progress!

  3. I wouldn’t trust this 2 week appeal crap prior to suspension of benefits anymore than i would trust the current system. Think about it, if they cant get it right already, what hope is there there do any better job under the new system.

    Like all things Tory, its a ploy which probably is something like giving themselves time to make sure they can screw the claimant so they have no chance of winning later on down the road in the appeal.

    Obviously i will let it unfold over time but honestly don’t see this benefiting anyone but DWP and the Tories.

    Lets hope im wrong as its totally shocking how claimants are treated like how can you sanction someone for signing on 5 mins late when the DWP have you routinely sitting there up to half and hour just to sign on in the first pace week in, week out, talk about double standards or what.

  4. Some further information on how unfair sanctions are – they have
    caused deaths- https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2014/07/29/benefit-sanctions-are-not-fair-and-are-not-helping-people-into-work/

    and – https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2014/12/14/pregnant-and-sanctioned-just-in-time-for-christmas-sanctioned-and-frozen-to-death-the-latest-news-from-ashton-under-lyne-jobcentre/

    and – Mother sanctioned for taking four year old to toilet – https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2015/06/02/mother-sanctioned-for-taking-four-year-old-child-to-the-toilet/

    They aren’t rational or based on any credible academic theory of psychology, and they don’t work – https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/sanctions-are-founded-on-tory-psychobabble-you-cant-incentivise-people-by-starving-them/

    Sanctions misery for tens of thousands of families this Christmas – https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/sanctions-misery-for-tens-of-thousands-of-families-this-christmas/

    Government under fire for massaging unemployment figures via benefit sanctions from Commons Select Committee – https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2014/11/06/government-under-fire-for-massaging-unemployment-figures-via-benefit-sanctions/

    A tale of two suicides and a very undemocratic, inconsistent government – https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2015/09/25/a-tale-of-two-suicides-and-a-very-undemocratic-inconsistent-government/

    Rising ESA sanctions: punishing the vulnerable for being vulnerable – https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2014/05/19/rising-esa-sanctions-punishing-the-vulnerable-for-being-vulnerable/

  5. Are benefit claimants really too lazy to sign on once a month for their free money? If you tried that in any job you’d be out the door in a flash. Not that benefit claiments have ever known a true days work.

    • People aren’t sanctioned for not signing on, reasons include being a few minutes late for an interview, and quite often the date and time for the interview arrive once it has passed. It’s well known that the DWP has targets for sanctions and they are applied to the most vulnerable claimants.

      Most claimants have worked and paid tax, so it’s not “free money”, as you claim.

      As for slating claimants, well most have worked and lost their jobs, it’s not the same people claiming benefits each year, people move in and out of employment. I’ve worked all my life and now I am too ill to work, I claim banafit. Accident and illness can happen to anyone and leave them disabled, that doesn’t make them “lazy” or at fault as you imply. Anyone can lose their job too. Best hope it doesn’t happen to you, eh?

      • Believe it or not but actually what youve paid into the system only accounts for the first 6 months on unemployment and is decided by a persons contributions over a certain amount of years of the governments/DWPs choosing.

        Now i agree with your points wholeheartedly but successive governments both Tory and Labour have put in place a system that prevents your comment from being a very valid one.

      • Sure gaia – and it’s notable that unlike most other EU countries, there isn’t a higher payment for those first six months.

      • Most people claiming benefits do so temporarily. The people on benefits year in and out are not the same people, as they tend to move in and out of work. Unfortunately, a lot of employment is insecure and low paid, providing only temporary relief for families, leaving them insecure financially and periodically needing to return to benefits to get by and meet basic needs. My comment is valid regardless of governments 🙂

    • So you don’t have the faintest idea. It’s every two weeks, for starters, and you’re quite ignorant of why sanctions happen.

      And I see, you claim people who use the NHS and all pensioners on the state persioners have “ever known a true days work.”

      i.e. The “rich are the only workers” ideology. Right.

      Never mind i.e. income-based JSA, either.

      • Actually, the comment was automatically suspended following a number of flags. It was reviewed and found to be in compliance of house rules. We’re not here to censor debate, so I would respectively ask people not to flag comments purely based on one’s own opinions.

      • Steven;

        With all due respect, there are people on websites like Guido’s which can and will take advantage of that. They’ll link articles and people from those thread could flood here to post anti-welfare comments en-mass, and ruin any chance of discussion.

        (Not the website owners themselves, but some of the nastier commentators on the threads. That’s the downside to disqus)

        There’s plenty of spaces for hating on the poor and welfare today, as it is :/


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